tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810623855707613503.post928862673170446427..comments2024-01-17T14:10:32.675+01:00Comments on The Realm of Rivers and Lakes: Chor Lau Heung 1984 summary eps 11-16Ichahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11201156394951497511noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810623855707613503.post-77214317992183507052017-11-06T01:43:21.593+01:002017-11-06T01:43:21.593+01:00Good morning, Lee (how do I call you?). Thanks a l...Good morning, Lee (how do I call you?). Thanks a lot for dropping a comment here, truly appreciate it!<br /><br />I haven't updated the blog recently, losing interest in the difficult translation of Gu Long's second CLH series... (hope to pick it up again by Christmas holiday). I think Michael Miu's CLH is very close to Gu Long's, and MM has actually infused a lot of beauty in his CLH interpretation (including his body language). I'm glad that SC wasn't in Gu Long's series though; Barbara's SC was a breath of fresh air against other women in CLH books...<br /><br />As for downloading the MVs, I thought Dailymotion and Vimeo allow ppl to download them? If I find a place to download DM and Vimeo, I'll let you know. Did you try DL through DM and Vimeo? I couldn't post the MVs on YouTube because of TVB copyright (what annoyance!). Each MV is very large, so putting them on Dropbox etc will eat up my quota...<br /><br /><br />Ichahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11201156394951497511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810623855707613503.post-55594745569737401602017-11-05T14:35:44.457+01:002017-11-05T14:35:44.457+01:00icha, i love your blog. same as you,I grew up watc...icha, i love your blog. same as you,I grew up watching wuxia series during the weekend. And helplessly went goo goo and ga ga over this iconic couple. My fave of all time is CLH by Michael Miu and Barbara Yung as well as New heaven sword and dragon sabre by Tony Leun and Kitty Lai. I recently watch them again.Still mesmerised and enchanted as I was a 12yrs old gal back then. Then I found your blog and all the fanfictions stories you made. Made my day brighter than ever...Thx Icha. esp for all the MVs. I wonder where I can download them,i tried many times but failed. It takes alot of efforts and dedications to do this blog. I thought I was the crazy fan who did the major collections of their pics, and counting how many clothes they wore and record all the lovely scenes using the recording tape. Back then I watched them using beta video and dubbed with english and indonesian subtitle. I had the copy version from beta video and had the chinese version dvd. Just recently watched the original version which was in cantonese and has english subtitle. It was mind blowing watching it again with all the tiny details that you and the rest put into in this blog...I love how SC fought for her love, she didn't have any reservations on showing her affection to CLH esp in front of somany people. This was courage and bravery...although at the beginning she found that CLH annoying and cocky but later on she found herself attracted to his charm. I love how CLH paid attention with his twinkie eyes everytime SC talked and being nosy. He found her cute and lovely otherwise he wouldn't careless abt her. All the stealing glances make my heart flutters... CLh is indeed charming and attractive big time! As for Michael even for a 59yrs old man I find him is aging gracefully and nonetheless has his own charisma too. leeayreinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13910530054885856915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810623855707613503.post-58908193669567751102017-04-22T09:13:27.419+02:002017-04-22T09:13:27.419+02:00Thanks a lot, Phuong! I've posted your comment...Thanks a lot, Phuong! I've posted your comments as a new post here:<br /><br />http://riverandlakerealm.blogspot.com.au/2017/04/chor-lau-heungs-love-to-song-siu-ching.html<br /><br />At the end of the post, I also gave some thoughts to your comments there. Do drop another comment there please? That way, since it's a new post, it will be read by more people...<br /><br />thanks again!Ichahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11201156394951497511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810623855707613503.post-70529795792955969802017-04-22T06:55:52.536+02:002017-04-22T06:55:52.536+02:00Don't mind at all. Post them however you see f...Don't mind at all. Post them however you see fit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810623855707613503.post-74030332351644173712017-04-22T04:58:29.926+02:002017-04-22T04:58:29.926+02:00Hi Phuong, no I'm NOT tired at all reading abo...Hi Phuong, no I'm NOT tired at all reading about your comments! In fact, do keep them coming!!<br /><br />I need to make lunch so I have no time yet to do justice to your comments by giving a longer reply, but I will do so this afternoon.<br /><br />One thing: do you mind if I repost your comments here as a brand new post up front on the blog? This post is about 1.5 years old, not many would visit them again. But I love your comments, and I'd like people to read them, for the topic of whether CLH indeed love SC, or at least when he started loving her, is a topic that CLH fans love to read.<br /><br />Do let me know, and TTYS!<br /><br /><br />Ichahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11201156394951497511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810623855707613503.post-11100335017030487092017-04-21T22:39:52.065+02:002017-04-21T22:39:52.065+02:00Also not sure if you notice but he never shy away ...Also not sure if you notice but he never shy away from showing SC his affections, so much that pretty much every around them know they're an item. Every time he comes back or leaving for a dangerous mission, if SC didn't run to him first then he always go directly to her, holding her arms/shoulder and reassure her that he's alright. He even did this several times in front of her father and that's a significant sign consider her father is an emperor. Although he is considered a flirt, CLH doesn't strike me as a person who uses flowery words to woo a girl. He's more likely the type to show them. Unlike Woo and YTW who would say all the lovely words, but not faithful in their actions. The fact that Woo and YTW both slept with Kam only show how honorable and faithful CLH is in relationship. He could've taking advantage of SC and Jan jan consider their feelings, but he was serious enough not to dishonor SC that way, and I'm glad your fan fics didn't portray him as such. Actions speak louder than words!<br /><br />You must be tired reading all my long comments lol. Thanks for the time.<br />PhuongAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810623855707613503.post-3713253186198055812017-04-21T22:38:36.300+02:002017-04-21T22:38:36.300+02:00Sorry to hear about your day, hope it got better. ...Sorry to hear about your day, hope it got better. Watching MB scenes always cheer me up lol.<br /><br />As CLH didn't straight out said he loves SC, it's up to one's interpretation if and when he does love here. Here's my take based on his personality and character.<br /><br />Although people dupe CLH as being a flirt/ladies' man, I believe that's more because of how nice he is toward women so they all ended up falling in love with him, and not because he's the type who hook up with all women. Woo once said despite all the women, CLH was never serious about anyone of them, until SC of course, and even Woo can tell that SC is different, that's why he encouraged Jan jan to actively pursue CLH.<br /><br />CLH himself I believe is a very faithful person. He takes relationship/marriage seriously and it's more of a one in a lifetime kind of love to him. If he's not serious about relationship, he could have just have fun with SC until the time she has to get back to the capital. Yet once he knows about her status, he begins to control his feelings for her by avoiding her, to prevent him if not both of them from getting hurt as there's no happy ending to the relationship. Fell cut also commented that CLH is loyal to love. Although he knows Jan jan likes him and he is too nice to tell her that he doesn't feel that way, he doesn't encourage jan jan either. Instead, often time he would express to jan jan how he worry and how much he miss SC. He even told jan jan that she will eventually find her soul mate.<br /><br />Back in the day, I believe people use xihuan (like) and ai (love) interchangeably. Also, opposite sex don't tend to hold hands or show affections unless they're in a serious relationship, and even then, it was mostly done in private. In public, any inappropriate touching could ruin a girl's reputation/life.<br /><br />CLH is always proper and courteous toward women and always treat them with respect. Yet with SC since day 1, he doesn't act very proper at all. He's very familiar/relax with her, always playful and flirt outrageously with her, and always seem to be touching her. It's like he knows her all his life instead of just met. The first time SC got kidnapped by Koo Tai Pang, SC was in her white sleep clothes and neither of them make a fuss about it. Yet when CLH found jan jan in a disheveled condition in his room, he seems uncomfortable and embarrass. He always take SC's side, which of course make the 3 ladies mad and often comment that he always favor SC. Once he realized he has real feelings for SC after she left him at Dr Cheong, I believe the 3 days at Peace mansion is significant in the progress of their relationship, especially to CLH. All the walks, his rush to explain his relationship with Jan jan, his comments of time flying too fast and suggest to leave with her in the morning, and of course the chess scene when he holds SC's hands (CLH declaring himself). All these are signs of love. Consider how honorable he is, he wouldn't do all that if he's not serious about her, so to me, he's in love with her and not just a mere interest or like. I'm not saying he's ready to marry her then, he would take things slow as he once said marriage is very important to him. But consider his attitude of taking things as they come, he wouldn't think about their future together if he didn't love her right? And that's why he's so heartbroken when telling Woo that there is no future for him and SC. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810623855707613503.post-83321644126393965502017-04-20T05:19:08.055+02:002017-04-20T05:19:08.055+02:00Hi Phuong! Thanks a lot for your comment, yet agai...Hi Phuong! Thanks a lot for your comment, yet again... it truly made my day... (was an emotionally draining day yesterday before I received your message).<br /><br />Yes, I also lost count how many times I've rewatched CLH now... lol...<br /> <br />"He only called her miss Song like once (when he introduced her to Zo) and the rest of the time, he naturally called her by her given name vs him calling miss Wah/Koh/Kam thru the whole movie."<br /><br />I COMPLETELY missed this! How come I didn't see it?? I have to check Ep 2-3 to see when he actually called her "Siu Ching" the first time, how come I missed that!<br /><br />" At the scene where the 2 couples crossed path (CLH/Janjan and SC/Tin Ho), CLH automatically tried to explain to SC that she got him wrong, that it was not what it looks like between him and Janjan and he then looked at Tin Ho like what are you still doing here??? Too bad they didn't continue to show their date. If they weren't dating, why would he need to explain? And of course with CLH's personality, the fact that he explains say a lot. <br />Then on the 3rd day (their last day together before she has to go home), he said time seems to fly by too fast that day, and he offered to leave with her (to prolong their time together)."<br /><br />TRUE, TRUE! Those are the signs that CLH was at least genuinely interested in her!<br /><br />But are those the signs that he LOVES her? <br /><br />I mean to me, he started to realise SC meant a lot to him when she left him at Dr Cheong's clinic (Ep 11). But he started to realise he loved her when he couldn't get her... as in, when he realised she was a princess. <br /><br />Does this make sense? Or, what do you think?<br /><br />"Perhaps some fan fics here on the deleted scenes of their relationship and their dates in those 3 days? :)"<br /><br />A very interesting angle, thanks! I hope I can set aside time to write it. I just have to disconnect myself from the web and start it! <br /><br /><br />Ichahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11201156394951497511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810623855707613503.post-37590605572748557612017-04-19T09:29:33.925+02:002017-04-19T09:29:33.925+02:00Hi ICha,
I rewatched CLH again (I lost count of t...Hi ICha,<br /><br />I rewatched CLH again (I lost count of the # of times I watched it lol) and I don't think I ever question his love for SC. He seems to be attracted to her the first time he met her as can be seen in the way he treats/talks to her. He only called her miss Song like once (when he introduced her to Zo) and the rest of the time, he naturally called her by her given name vs him calling miss Wah/Koh/Kam thru the whole movie. He also touches her /holding her hands every chance he got. I do agree that they didn't realized their feelings for each other until episode 11 at Dr Cheong's place. It was then that SC realized she loves him and when she asked to call his name again and cried that it touches a part of CLH's heart and he realized he has feelings for her (deeper than just friends) when he was told she had left, hence the shock/disappointment/sadness.<br />He was happy to see her the next time they met (with her father), too bad their moment was cut short by inspector Ying. I think a lot happened in the 3 days at the Peace mansion in regard to their relationship. They rarely seen without each other and they don't seem to run out of things to talk to each other. At the scene where the 2 couples crossed path (CLH/Janjan and SC/Tin Ho), CLH automatically tried to explain to SC that she got him wrong, that it was not what it looks like between him and Janjan and he then looked at Tin Ho like what are you still doing here??? Too bad they didn't continue to show their date. If they weren't dating, why would he need to explain? And of course with CLH's personality, the fact that he explains say a lot. <br />Then on the 3rd day (their last day together before she has to go home), he said time seems to fly by too fast that day, and he offered to leave with her (to prolong their time together).<br />And of course the scene between him and Wu Tit Fa where he admits (sadly) that he knows he has no future with SC (found out she's a princess). Again, the fact that he thought of their future together is the telltale sign of his love for her.<br /><br />Perhaps some fan fics here on the deleted scenes of their relationship and their dates in those 3 days? :)<br /><br />Thank you for taking the time to summarize the episodes and putting in your thoughts.<br />PhuongAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com